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God; a good father or a deadbeat dad. Which is the truth?

 

The use of the term Father in speaking of God is quite ancient and was around way before Jesus started using the term, even though he used son of man a lot more than son of God.

 

A son calling someone father in the proud way Jesus did is respecting a worthy father, but if we look at Yahweh, I do not see how anyone could be proud of such a father.

 

Yahweh is definitely portrayed as being quite vile thanks to his use of genocide, infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty quite often. Yahweh is also shown to covet Joseph’s wife, cuckold Joseph, produce a son and then take off for parts unknown leaving his responsibility for his son to others thus showing himself to be a deadbeat dad.

 

Scripture say that we are all sons of God. To be relevant to his children, a father has to be around to interact with them. It seems that God does not want to be relevant to us as he remains absent and places us, his children, at the mercy of people who have written scripture more to enrich themselves than to give us the messages from God that they claim to know. Even though scriptures say that God id unknowable and unfathomable and his desires cannot be known.

 

My analysis of the bible and God does not show God to be a good father.

 

Do you, as a child of God, see God as a good father or as more of a deadbeat dad?

 

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DL

Can you understand the logic of Universality, in terms of all of us ending in heaven?

 

Hell is obviously an invention of the church. Universalists Gnostic Christianity and other Universalist Abrahamic cults do not see God as a loser of the souls he calls the light of the world.

 

The light of the world does not end in hell.

 

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

 

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

 

As you can see, especially those last two quotes,  all are saved without a sacrifice.

 

The logic behind Universalism begins with knowing that all souls are created equal. It thus follows that God would treat all souls the same way and would all be given the best possible end due to us being the light of the world and equal. This follows natural law as well as heavenly law as those are never in conflict.

 

Look at judging, from God’s point of view, with an example of one we mostly think of as evil, Hitler.

 

Hitler would appear before God and as God examines Hitler’s life, he would see that all those Hitler interacted with, and who contributed to what Hitler became, would all have to share the blame and guilt for Hitler becoming the monster we think he was.

 

If you take that sound judging logic to it’s ultimate end, you will see the logic of either punishing all of us for what we have contributed to evil, or forgive us all for all being exactly what God, if he existed, created us to be.

 

Non-Universalist creeds, that have that imaginary religious creation called hell, are trying to appease their own blame and guilt by placing some souls above others even though God would have created us all equal. God unites while religions separate.

 

Do you believe God to be a Universalist God, or a God that is such a poor creator that he would have to send his perfectly created souls to eternal punishment instead of just curing them, if required?

 

Regards

DL

The name Mohammad is given to sons to show respect. Why is the name Jesus not given the same respect?

 

Many cultures pass on names of those they wish to show respect to. The Muslim community pass on the name Mohamad more than Christians do with the name of Jesus. This name respect is lacking in the Christian cultures.

 

I think it is due to the fact that none in the Abrahamic cults can justify Yahweh/Jesus’ genocide of mankind.

 

Yahweh’s son Jesus has not been deemed worthy of respect for moral reasons. Christians recognize the imperfections and agree with the ostracising of the name Jesus. Hence their not passing on the name and showing disrespect. Jesus is as unworthy to literal reading people in the myriad of Christian cults, as is Yahweh.

 

 Are the myriad of Christian and Catholic cults showing a lack of respect for the name of Jesus as compared to the respect Muslims show the name Mohammad?

 

Regards

DL

Jesus is the way and that way is the Gnostic Christian way. Not Christianity’s way.

 

Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18)

 

 Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

 

 Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

 

 The Luke and Mark quotes are referring to the following.

 

 Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

 

 John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

 

 Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

 

 For an extended view of that from my favorite philosopher. ----

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbe…

 

You will note that the bible teaches Jesus’ way and Gnostic Christianity follows that good way, yet the church never teaches Jesus’ true way.

 

Why is Christianity ignoring and even hiding the only worthy Jesus and the teachings of his way?

 

Regards

DL

Should religions be classified as Fake News? The bible seems to say yes.

 

Fake News is what many are calling lies or distortions of the truth these days.

 

No organizations distort the truth and outright lie about Gods than the organized religions.

 

Should religions be classified as Fake News?

 

The bible seems to say yes.

 

Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18)

 

Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

 

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

 

Regards

DL

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Koshej Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2017
If scientists were honest about what is an actually proved fact, and what is nothing but their own fantasies and bias - would evolution (or better yet, atheism) be demoted to the myth that it really is?
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2017
"If scientists were honest about what is an actually proved fact, and what is nothing but their own fantasies and bias - would evolution (or better yet, atheism) be demoted to the myth that it really is?"

Let me tell you why scientists do not tend to lie.

Peer revue and the ability for others to run the same experiments and get the same claimed result.

Can the mythical and supernatural religions claim the same?

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Koshej Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2017
Little children also don't lie that there is a scary monster under their bed.
It's just that they are the only ones who honestly believes in its existence.
If anything, a huge portion of "science" dealing with evolution and Big Bang - are like that "under-bed monster":
The scientist "kids" honestly believe in its existence, but they don't trust the word of an adult that there can't be such a monster in the first place.
Or at least that nobody had ever seen it.

How many such experiments have YOU run?
Or what about any random person on this forum?
Admit it, 99% of people have zero relevance to actual peer review - they just accept whatever gets LABELED as "science - the ultimate truth".
It's propaganda all over again.
Not necessarily entirely false, but propaganda nonetheless.
Not "science".

Yes, and Judaism is specifically based on an event that involved about three million people having experienced the same "scientific experiment" called "meeting God first-person".
That's a few thousand times more "peer review data" and "experimental evidence" than any modern "science" can claim to have, ya know.
And if you go into "repeatability" - please, PROVE to me "with repeatability" that there was a landing on the Moon in the first place.
Not with "indirect evidence" like photos or claims themselves - but with actual "repeatability".
After all, you deny "indirect evidence" (and demand "repeatability") to the "experiment of God" - so why shouldn't I do the same to any other "experiments"?
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2017
Too much foolishness here for me to bother with.

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DL
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Lumdrop Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
And of course it's a leaf, as always.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2017
Thanks.
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KunYKA Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
You know mostly nothing what happens in my country
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AspiePie Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2016  Student General Artist
forum.deviantart.com/community… So do you believe in Bible Prophecy and how does this impact it?
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2017
If one thing is preordained, then all things are. Think of the domino effect.

So no, I do not believe in prophesy.

FMPOV, prophesy is just a guess as to what the future might hold.

History tends to generally repeat itself so anyone can prophesy anything that has already happened for the future and have a decent chance of seeing it happen in the next few thousand years.

Prophesy is close to the supernatural and Gnostic Christians like me hold no supernatural beliefs.

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DL 
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