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Christianity is based on substitutionary atonement. Is it a moral religion?


The case of substitutionary atonement that I wish to speak of is when God deemed it moral and just to punish his innocent son Jesus, --- instead of punishing the guilty sinners that God was to condemn.


The strange part of this situation is that God had chosen to sacrifice Jesus even before the potential for sin was created, --- God had yet to create the earth, --- showing that what God was killing Jesus for, --- he had yet to create.


This was an arbitrary choice for God that was completely needless. God could have chosen to punish the guilty, --- what most call justice, --- or God could have found a moral way to forgive us. Instead, God chose to do the unjust and punish the innocent instead of the guilty.  


The sacrifice was to pay or bribe God to change his usual policy of punishing the guilty to immorally punishing Jesus. God could have shown mercy and justice but instead decided to use an unjust method to forgive us.


That means that to be a good Christian, you have to accept and embrace the immoral tenet of human sacrifice and the notion that the best form of justice, --- when one wants to forgive someone, --- is to kill an innocent party.


As above so below.


At the end of days, God is to bring his law to earth.


Would you, as an innocent party, think it just if God punished you instead of the guilty?


Do you think that Jesus would ever preach such an immoral form of justice?





Why, believer or not, you seek a Monotheistic God.


Because that God is you. Instinctively speaking.


Our hiving or groupish natures and desire for friendship and fellowship lead us and statistics are showing how well our selfishness is working in terms of rapprochement for each of us to the whole world.……


This tribalism is both a blessing and a curse. The hive/you, seeks to unite with the other hives, --- is everyone's basic hive mind's number one desire. This is your base driving force for survival.


We desire one God and human master above all other desires. We all crave a monotheistic world while wanting that God to be ourselves. We call that freedom. We are all in this together while all wishing to stand alone and above. Some call this our selfish gene and without it we would go extinct.


Note the wisdom of the first few self-centred commandments. Like that God, we are all quite self-centered. Not near as barbaric as the bible God in most cases though, --- and our recognition of duty sends that self-centeredness to duty and love,  --- when it turns outwardly or towards others.


If I was to define God as, --- ( just the best set of rules to live life by ), --- then the statement, --- believer or not, you seek a Monotheistic God, --- becomes truth.


That God, --- described as rules and laws, --- is what believers seek.


Non-believers seek the same thing, but with an ideal that is a human leader (s), and not a supernatural being.


It seems that our natural selfishness turned duty is serving us well as a species if the trends are real. Remember to continue to seek an ideal in rules and laws.


If you have found God, you are an idol worshiper. Your bible or holy book condemns such an action.


As said in Candid, we are in the best of all possible worlds, because this is the only possible world. The world evolves and our political Gods as well as our religious Gods and masters must also all evolve.


We all seek a Monotheistic God and we all want him or her to be us. We do look outwardly though for the role model, --- and that is what makes the search worthy. It is what makes us more fully human.


The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christianís goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized.…


This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus.…


When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, then you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. God is that part of you that is more fully human.




How much hate does God have as compared to love in his heart?


God says to love the sinner and hate the sin. But scriptures say that, at the end of days, the numbers of souls in hell will far surpass the number of souls in heaven. The wide road as compared to the narrow road.


If, at the end of days, God must destroy that many of us in the lake of fire, his hate would have to be much greater than the love he has for the relatively few that he will cling to and love in the place for eternal and ignorant bliss, heaven.


To my way of thinking, it would be impossible to kill with love in oneís heart and so God would have to have hate in his when he kills instead of cures all those souls. We do know that God does not need or have to kill, but will, and God cannot have love in his heart when he does. That would be monstrous.


I know that love and hate for souls are not necessarily proportional but even at ten to one, God must end with a lot more hate than love in his heart when he pours the vast majority of us into the lake of fire.


How then can God ask us to love sinners and hate the sin when he hates the sinner and we are to follow his lead?




Man was never to eat of the tree of life.


I do not think man was ever intended to eat of the tree of life and you will note that nowhere in scriptures is itís lose bemoaned.


We came out of Eden being as Gods and knowing all that he knows. Godís own words in this myth. They have become as Gods.


We are then denied the ability to have that knowledge live forever as it would make man stagnate at whatever level of knowledge he had then, or even now if we extrapolate the story to where we are all Adams. Our knowledge continues to evolve.


The archetypal God in this myth does not want man to idolize his own knowledge as that would stifle progress. We are to perpetually raise the bar and not make an unchangeable immortal idol of what we know. We are to deny ourselves the immortality of our ideas and knowledge. They, like man, are to evolve forever.


I bet you never thought of this myth that way.


Can you see it?




Are you created in God's image?


"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

Į Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion


Deuteronomy 32:4

He is the Rock, his work is perfect


Matthew 5:48

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Scriptures tell us to be like God and emulate all he does as we are to follow in his footsteps.


If you are a Christian, are you capable of following your God?


Would you be able and willing to do some of the things the bible shows God doing?


Are you created in Godís image?





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myname1z4xs Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014
we love psychopath deity :la:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner 3 days ago
LBAMagic Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
love your deviant ID ;) (Wink) 
LBAMagic Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol. great video clip. two great actors.
now I'll have to rent the dvd to watch it all.
jumpman2121 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm, even though I’m a Christian, I don’t think God “wanted” Jesus’ death. God isn’t perfect...
Plus Jesus wasn’ crucifixied, he was straightwoodtableixied.
Saij-Spellhart Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
your icon creeps me out. 
Malintra-Shadowmoon Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Just wanted to stop by to say that I like your forum thread about Gnostic Christianity. Unfortunately, I had some difficulties to make out what you really wanted to express in your original post. It seems a bit mixed up to me.
Another thing is that no-one knows what really to write about and some talk about things they do not know.
But it is just a nice attempt, deserving a llama :)
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014

Please, if you have the time, go back and ask questions so that I can clarify my position or explain what I meant in a better way.

Gnostic Christianity can be quite complicated in terms of their myths but our ways are fairly simple once known.

Malintra-Shadowmoon Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that you have explained your standpoint quite well
et je ne savais pas que tu es francais ....
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