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How much hate does God have as compared to love in his heart?

 

God says to love the sinner and hate the sin. But scriptures say that, at the end of days, the numbers of souls in hell will far surpass the number of souls in heaven. The wide road as compared to the narrow road.

 

If, at the end of days, God must destroy that many of us in the lake of fire, his hate would have to be much greater than the love he has for the relatively few that he will cling to and love in the place for eternal and ignorant bliss, heaven.

 

To my way of thinking, it would be impossible to kill with love in oneís heart and so God would have to have hate in his when he kills instead of cures all those souls. We do know that God does not need or have to kill, but will, and God cannot have love in his heart when he does. That would be monstrous.

 

I know that love and hate for souls are not necessarily proportional but even at ten to one, God must end with a lot more hate than love in his heart when he pours the vast majority of us into the lake of fire.

 

How then can God ask us to love sinners and hate the sin when he hates the sinner and we are to follow his lead?

 

Regards

DL

Man was never to eat of the tree of life.

 

I do not think man was ever intended to eat of the tree of life and you will note that nowhere in scriptures is itís lose bemoaned.

 

We came out of Eden being as Gods and knowing all that he knows. Godís own words in this myth. They have become as Gods.

 

We are then denied the ability to have that knowledge live forever as it would make man stagnate at whatever level of knowledge he had then, or even now if we extrapolate the story to where we are all Adams. Our knowledge continues to evolve.

 

The archetypal God in this myth does not want man to idolize his own knowledge as that would stifle progress. We are to perpetually raise the bar and not make an unchangeable immortal idol of what we know. We are to deny ourselves the immortality of our ideas and knowledge. They, like man, are to evolve forever.

 

I bet you never thought of this myth that way.

 

Can you see it?

 

Regards

DL

Are you created in God's image?

 

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

Į Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

 

Deuteronomy 32:4

He is the Rock, his work is perfect

 

Matthew 5:48

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

 

Scriptures tell us to be like God and emulate all he does as we are to follow in his footsteps.

 

If you are a Christian, are you capable of following your God?

 

Would you be able and willing to do some of the things the bible shows God doing?

 

Are you created in Godís image?

 

Regards

DL

Governments govern God. Should God govern governments?

 

At present, governments control the law of the land and church policy to a large extent. Should the law of the land be Godís law?

 

Separation of church and state, to my way of thinking, is impossible. To think that an elected official who adheres to a religion can somehow leave his or her religion out of the houses of government when they enter to take their seat is ridiculous. Social, cultural and traditional conditioning that people live under cannot just be set aside in oneís mind. Further a representative must represent his constituents and in the U.S. they will be religious constituents who wish to be represented as religious and not necessarily secular.

 

Christians and other religious seek to live in a theocracy under what I would call a Timocratic Tyranny. Timocratic in the sense that God rules for love, honor and duty. Tyrannical in the sense that any who break any of the laws, large or small, are swiftly dealt with. The non-religious seek more of a democratic nation where they make the rules and not God. As a Gnostic Christian, I admit to being secular and have no love of the laws the Gods offer.

 

At present, we all live in Oligarchic countries. Some of these we call democratic, some communistic and others of various labels but at the end of the day, all of us live in Oligarchies. We are all owned and controlled by those with wealth and bought political power.

 

If I focus on the U.S., I do not see how it is possible for what many Americans call a Christian nation, to not be conflicted, when Americans seek freedom and democracy in governance here on earth, while seeking the Timocratic Tyranny of heaven.

 

This goes against the notion of as above so below, or as Christians say, on earth as it is in heaven.

 

For Christians to end this governance conflict, --- they cannot have their cake and eat it too, ---Americans would have to bring Godís law to earth and scrap the notions of democracy and vote for a Timocratic Tyranny like what God has in heaven.

 

To accomplish the Christian goal of Godís law on earth as it is in heaven, the Christian right would have to gain power and end democracy in the U.S.

 

I would ask those Christians on the religious and political right, are you ready to try to dismantle the Oligarchy you presently live under, --- end the farce of democracy, --- and install Godís Timocratic Tyranny?

 

Regards

DL

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14Sll…

Christians loving their genocidal God is like Jews adoring Hitler, and just as foolish.

 

As above, so below.

 

Above.

God condemned Christians to hell and extinction.

 

Below.

Hitler condemned the Jews to extinction.

 

Result.

The same expected results if both plans are successful. Except that God gets the bonus of the smell of burning human flesh. Um, Um, Good.

 

 

The Jews know not to call evil good. They would not bend the knee to Hitler.

 

Christians and all the other Abrahamic faiths, bend the knee to God. Christians and Muslims thus call evil good.

 

The Christian and Muslim version of Eden as a fall is reversed from the Jewish version and is wrong.

 

Christians and Muslims should have usurped the moral of the story when they usurped and altered the Jewish myths. Reading this myth literally has been quite harmful. Remember the Dark Ages and the Inquisitions.

 

If, as above so below is to be the dream of religion, and it is as we are to match laws with heaven, then the near perfect analogy above of as above so below must be brought into synch.

 

If you are a Christian or Muslim, please justify why you bond the knee to a God that does not deserve that title.  A  God who would blame his own creation for his errors in creating.

 

The claim that your God is good does not hold water in either the esoteric world, or in this one. Not in the literal world or the fantasy world of the Gods.

 

I know that you likely inherited your God and did not choose him for yourself. You can do better. You can find a God who owns up to his errors and repents to his victims, as he can, if he was man enough, instead of blaming others for his errors.

 

I think it time for believers to reject the genocidal God and stop wishing for the tyranny above in heaven, --- while trying to live in a democracy here below. Bring democracy to heaven by telling your tyrannical God where to go.

 

The jury is in my friend and fellow believers. Religions are out. The tipping point is est., 2050.

 

To believe is good but to believe in a condemning God is foolish.

 

God may have begun as foolish, --- Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; --- but God is almost ready to obey his better. Mankind.

 

Is it time to alter Christianity or will Christian let it die?

 

Will Christianity revive itself by returning to a more Jewish view? After all, the entire Bible was written by Jews.

 

If Jews are bright enough to reject the one who would annihilate them, why are Christians not following that good example and lovingly bending the knee to a proven tyrant, while at the same time promoting a less tyrannical life here on earth?

 

Seems a tad hypocritical to me my friends. Trust me on this.

 

Regards

DL

 

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myname1z4xs Featured By Owner 3 days ago
we love psychopath deity :la:
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LBAMagic Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
love your deviant ID ;) (Wink) 
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LBAMagic Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol. great video clip. two great actors.
now I'll have to rent the dvd to watch it all.
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jumpman2121 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmm, even though I’m a Christian, I don’t think God “wanted” Jesus’ death. God isn’t perfect...
Plus Jesus wasn’ crucifixied, he was straightwoodtableixied.
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Saij-Spellhart Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
your icon creeps me out. 
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Malintra-Shadowmoon Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Just wanted to stop by to say that I like your forum thread about Gnostic Christianity. Unfortunately, I had some difficulties to make out what you really wanted to express in your original post. It seems a bit mixed up to me.
Another thing is that no-one knows what really to write about and some talk about things they do not know.
But it is just a nice attempt, deserving a llama :)
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014
Thanks.

Please, if you have the time, go back and ask questions so that I can clarify my position or explain what I meant in a better way.

Gnostic Christianity can be quite complicated in terms of their myths but our ways are fairly simple once known.

Regards
DL
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Malintra-Shadowmoon Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that you have explained your standpoint quite well
et je ne savais pas que tu es francais ....
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
Merci bien des fois.

I am Canadian and more Franglais than Francais, mais je me débrouille.

Regards
DL
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